Are you ready for the Rapture?

[Alabama358]

There is not one single sentence in Matt. 24 which can be ascribed to a rapture event...

I had hoped your were done barfing up Darbyite talking points... Just stating your opinion as if it is an established fact, doesn't make it true and factual... it makes you look desperate.

I will set a box of tissues aside for you.

[Good Cheer]

How many countries have you actually traveled to that would cause you to form that opinion?
Or, is that something you read on the internet?

Do the research and you won't be asking that question?
As observation of mankind over time goes on and on, I question why our individual cognitive abilities would be relied upon to determine who among us should qualify for redemption.

[Bowdrie]

Why are you absolutely incapable of reading the words of Matt. 24 and understanding what it is so plain and easy to grasp?
Read it slowly, words mean things.
If you can't understand that the word "will" is future tense you need to go back to school.
Can't you see that Jesus spoke in plain language, and spoke in chronological order the things that would happen?
Jesus laid out very plainly just what He was asked by the disciples.
If you think I just made stuff up you're sadly mistaken.
Show me any place in Matt. 24 where the angels gather anybody from earth.
Show me the part about the rapture in Matt.24, which words, which sentence, which verse that you find a rapture in.
Instead of attacking me, show me where you're right.
Speak in your own words how you understand a passage, continually just quoting Scripture shows no understanding of what you're quoting, a parrot can do that, if you can't explain what the words mean, you can't teach it.
Many others are probably following this thread, explain to all of us how you interpret Matt.24 in your own words.
If you can't do that, then you don't understand it.

[.429&H110]

"And then the end shall come."

We have work to do yet.

[dverna]

As I said a few posts ago…this is so sad…seeing believers arguing about something that does not matter.

Generations of believers have anticipated the return of Jesus. When that happens, do you think it will not be apparent?

Will you have a better place in heaven if your beliefs, or lack of them, wrt to Rapture are correct?

[Alabama358]

Speak in your own words how you understand a passage, continually just quoting Scripture shows no understanding of what you're quoting, a parrot can do that, if you can't explain what the words mean, you can't teach it.

Folks that are pedaling garbage usually have a problem with chapter and verse type conversations

You have already been weighed and measure ... and you have been found wanting

Matthew 10:14
14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet

(In my own words... your like a rock, you have bought into, what I think is a false a doctrine hook-line-sinker and only want to propagate said doctrine. If I thought I could be of any help to you I would continue... but rocks are rocks, so I am shaking the dust off as far as going back and forth with you)

I ask you for a single clear bible verse that says (with no need of twisting) that clearly states that the Church will be secretly raptured before the 7 year period, just disappeared with no signs or wonders... and you had no deliverables.

If you are worried about edifying others following this thread... I would suggest they go back to Post #164 to see the misleading manner in which "using your own words" you twist scripture to compensate for your weak doctrine...

You said

Jesus said that unless the days were shortened that even the Elect would be deceived.

I said

Again....says nothing of the sort. Your just making stuff up?
What it actually says is " And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Nothing about the days being shortened to keep the elect from being deceived

and you said

Yes, I made a typo in using "deceived"

You see... a typo is a missed spelled word or using too instead of two or even a punctuation error... when you completely change and twist scripture to push your own ideas it is intellectually dishonest at best and fraudulent at worst.

This type of "using your own words" without putting it next to scripture is often how folks that are still on the milk of the word get sucked into false doctrine.

There are other regular members here that don't believe the pre-trib Darby thingy...play with them

[Bowdrie]

Please tell us in your own words the meaning of any of the verses in Matt. 24.
If you can't explain what it means, then you don't understand it.
Endlessly attacking me does not make your position stronger, it only serves to show your lack of understanding.
If you think my analysis of Matt. 24 is wrong, then show me, (and us,) how you are right.
If the Holy Spirit gave you the wisdom to understand the true meaning of that that chapter, then explain it to all of us that we may understand its true meaning.
Don't just quote Scripture, endlessly quoting Scripture has nothing to do with understanding God's word.

[Thundarstick]

Here is THE most important verse in Matthew 24.

Mat 24:44 - So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

Then in a parable he warns servants (teachers, shepards).

Mat 24:45 - 51 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions.
But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

[Kosh75287]

Is ANY of us REALLY ready for ANY of this?

[exile]

"whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas, or the world or life or death, or things present or things to come-all are yours. And you are Christ's, and Christ is God's."

1 Corinthians 3:22-23 (NKJV)

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[exile]

"in him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory."

Ephesians 1:13-14 (E.S.V.)

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[Good Cheer]

Is ANY of us REALLY ready for ANY of this?

Well, no, but it mite feel good to try to prepare ones self.

[exile]

"So to Noah and into the ark they went by twos-all flesh in which was the spirit of life. Those that came, male and female of all flesh, came just as God commanded him. Then ADONAI shut him in."

Genesis 7:15-16 (TLV)


Christ is the Ark. Get in and let God close the door!

Then you are in Christ and Christ is in God.

As someone once said, "Now you are double-bagged."

Now you are safe.

Now you can face the future with confidence. Don't wait any longer. Ask Christ to dwell in your heart today.

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[exile]

"and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus."

Ephesians 2:6-7 (E.S.V.)

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[Bowdrie]

Christ is the Ark. Get in and let God close the door.

Amen, Noah preached to all the mockers and scoffers for over 100 years, and then waited for 7 days.
During those 7 days any of those mockers and scoffers could have banged on the door before God sealed it.
It's the same today, the mockers and scoffers think everything will be alright, and nothing will change.
They think that if the "right people" are elected and Israel is split-up so the "Palestinians", (whoever they are,) get their own state that everything will be all smiles.
They have no clue of what's coming down the pike in very short order.

[exile]

"For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, because they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the day of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water."

1 Peter 3:18-20 (E.S.V.)

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