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Thread: 230 grain .357 bullets in my 6 inch GP100 for shooting bowling pins

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    230 grain .357 bullets in my 6 inch GP100 for shooting bowling pins

    Greetings all. So I have been reloading for a couple years now, and along with my semi weekly trips to the range, I have been shooting at our local bowling pin shoot.

    I have been experimenting with 230 grain wadcutter bullets from badman bullets, pretty much the same as penn bullets thunderhead.

    I have been getting pretty decent performance using 5 grains of AA#5. I know another guy who has had good luck he says using 7.2 - 7.4 of Blue Dot.

    Anyone else having any success with these weight bullets?
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    A 230 gr boolits is quite heavy for a 357. The heaviest that I have ever shot in the 357 was a 200 gr RN Lyman. I don't even remember a load for a bullet that heavy.

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    Highest bullet I got data for is a 200 grn RN 358432. With the 200 I am getting some unstable impacts at 20 yards. I have some pictures in a separate thread started by me. Might want to have a look.

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    I used 200 grn in 357 for my wife. They carried the pins good and were accurate. If your gun shoots the 230 grn well it should do very well. I believe they were loaded to around 850 fps.

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    I have spent time with the Lyman 358627 at 215 grains. Great swc.

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    I would think Bluedot would be ideal. I've only gone as heavy as 215 grain, and both Bluedot and H110 work great.

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    I can put it into Quickload, but I'll need the bullet length and the loaded length.

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    I looked at NOE and they have a 228gn SWC that is .945"
    My GP-100 shows a max length of 1.661", so I put 1.650" into Quickload.

    AA#5 5gns shows 883fps @ 21.7kpsi
    AA#5 6.2gns shows 1032fps @ 34.5kpsi

    BlueDot 7.2gns shows 997fps @ 26.8kpsi
    BlueDot 8.0gns shows 1093fps @ 35kpsi

    H-110 11gns shows 1082fps @ 29.5kpsi 103% load density

    this is not load data, just a computer simulation...
    You'll have to check your velocity, if your velocity is higher than predicted then the pressure is probably higher also.
    Running very heavy bullets in a small case takes up most of the case volume, so seating variations can make a big difference in pressures. If your bullet is longer than the one I used, then you'll have to reduce the powder charge, if you seat it deeper than what I have listed, then you'll have to reduce the powder charge...

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    230 thunderhead with 5.1 Unique stays below sonic crack, about to try Ideal 358318 (245 grain RN). see this post for heavier 357 loads.


    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/arch.../t-236689.html

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    You just don't need that much weight to move a pin off the table imo. Bullet shape is more important than weight. So a full 160gr WC probably works just as well. I have great results using a 205gr lwnfp in my 45acp. It smacks the pins really hard.
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