Where are all the TC Shooters at,come on boys lets get this forum going. All TC shooters love to talk about there toys.What do you all shoot?
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Where are all the TC Shooters at,come on boys lets get this forum going. All TC shooters love to talk about there toys.What do you all shoot?
I have an Encore with a 15" SSK barrel, SSK T'SOB mount, Leupold PRW rings, trigger job by SSK, Burris 3x12 scope, rifle forend, Caldwell prone bipod. Caliber is 7mm BR.
Welcome to the forum, guys.
I shoot a Contender currently with .22lr, .30carb, and .357mag 10" barrels, a .30Herrett 14", and .30-30 & .223 Carbine barrels. I will be adding more Carbine barrels eventually, like a .35Rem and a wildcat .30/.223, and if the spirit moves me, I may have several more custom pistol barrels made, too. I sent my frame in to T/C about twenty years ago and they did a great trigger job on it and replaced the hammer assembly no charge. (They also tuned and fit a .223 barrel that was giving me trouble without charge, too, but it liked factory ammo and I couldn't find a handload it liked after trying fifteen different bullets and six different powders. I sold it to someone who doesn't handload and he loves it.) I have owned dozens of other barrels for it over the years, and I shudder to think how many thousands of rounds I have fired through it and how much game I have taken using it.
I have contender and g2 frame with 7tcu 14" and 10" ,444 marlin 10" 300 whisper ssk 15".One encore frame with tc custom 300 win mag with muzzle tamer after load developement will be ordering burris 3X12 ballistic plex.Barrel and frame stainless had it about 2 weeks now.
Forgot did my own trigger with parts from Mike Bellm well worth the money.
I have a 15 inch Encore pistol that's a 30/06....:happy13:
i have a 7/30waters,7mmt/cu,223,44mag,35rem,375jdj g/2,new coyote guns 14"45l/c.....and it will keep growing as the play fund grows.......
HEY B.K I TOO HAVE A FEW T.CS I HAVEA22 ,357 44 30-30 35REMINGTONQuote:
Originally Posted by bigkev
ALSO I HAVE 3 XP100 2ARE CONCITIVE #IN 35 REM ONE IN 223
DONT SHOOT THEM ANY MORE AS I HEVE FOUND BLACKPOWDER THIS BLACKPOWDER IS HABIT FORMING SO IF YOUPLAN TO SHOOT B.P./ GET ALL YOUR SMOKLESS SHOOTING DONE BECAUSEYOU WONT GO BACK
TESTHOP
I have this gun. Encore, 460 S&W, 12-1/2 in. bbl. Standard grip and forend. I thought it may be to much for me at first, but now it is just fine. At 73 years old I can handle it. Using th 44 Mag bbl. last year, got my first shot with a pistol since I have been hunting,(1948) Got the doe at 85 yards. Season opens this Fri, Hope to get my second shot, and third, and fourth, ETC. I am having no luck at all so far getting other folks to answer my questions concerning this gun. Surely I am not the only one who owns one. I would like to communicate with someone who does. Please drop me a line. Grandbow
Bought one today with a 22 Remington Mag 10" barrel. Know to get the dies from C&H to reload and form the brass. 357 Mag necked down to 22.
Ken
Welcome grandbow.
I don't know a lot about the 460S&W. It's a longer 450 Cassul isn't it? It's weird how a round like 45-70 will kick like a mule in a light rifle, but the same load in an even lighter handcannon is managable. I fired a 500 S&W figuring it would really hurt, but it was a pussycat compared to what I had imagined and I was hitting 100yd targets with it easily. What are you loading in your 460 and what powders have you tried?
kodiak1,
Do you mean a 22 Rem Jet? I have always wondered how it would do in a Contender, especially compared to a round like the 221 Fireball. A friend had one of the S&W m53 revolvers, but it never worked right unless he used really light loads in it. He got disgusted and sold it for cheap. I know now he should have kept it - they have substantial collector value today and he could have had himself a bunch of Contender barrels.
At the present I am using H110, 44 grns, behind a barnes XTP 275 gr. At 50 yards the group is 1-1/2 or under, using a burris 2-7 electro dot. After hunting season I may try something else.
What you refer to above is nothing more than a 221 Fireball rimmed. There are several floating around where I live. I have made a few pices of brass and suggest you anneal BEFORE necking them down and then you may need to do it again. Virgin brass is the only way to go and I suggest Starline. You also need to watch neck thickness on this as you are moving a lot brass. The ones that I have seen for sale locally were all reamed to accept unturned necks. This has back fired as they become brittle and crack after a couple of reloads.Quote:
Originally Posted by kodiak1
I have been bitten by the TC bug for several years.
22 match
22 magnum
221 fireball
223
6-223
6TCU
7TCU
7-30 Waters
30-20
30-30
357 magnum
35 Remington rimmed-30-40 or 303 Brit as parent case
375 Winchester
44 magnum
45-70 Gov't
The above are all for the COntender/G2.
I have narrowed the heard down quite a bit for the Encore, no, actually a bunch. I am down to one caliber for that one.
308 Winchester
That barrel is by far the best shooter, in a factory chambering, in any TC product I have ever owned. Boring to the tune of under 1" at 100M all day, then at 200M it will stay at 2" easily and better with the right handloads. I have shot no lite loads in the 308. I bought it with the plans of a hunting rig and that is all it has shot. I have shot sevral 40 round IHMSA matches with it all 40x40 scores. The caliber and loads used are way more than what is needed for this game today. The recoil of a bench session is not bad. The 40 round matches will take their toll on you after the first 20 or so.
Yes there are other calibers out there that may shoot farther and flatter. But I thought they called it hunting and not killing. It is all in shot placement and practice practice.
Jeff
Yes it is a 22 Remington Jet.
Got my dancing fat fingers going faster than my brain.
I spotted Brass on Buffalo Arms but I don't know if the US Government will let me import it to Canada may have to build it.
Thanks Ken.:fighting68:
2 frames and 12 barrels :P
Welcome tclover, make yourself at home.
Which barrels do you have?
What is the differences between the Contender and the Contender G2?
The barrels will interchange won't they?
Ken.
Like the Encore, the G2 doesn't have the fantastic adjustable trigger of the original Contenders and you don't have to break the action open to recock the new ones, either. It's a case of giving up the best and the worst feature, so I have very mixed feelings about that. The frames are slightly different, so grips/stocks won't interchange. Barrels will interchange still, except the G2 M/L barrel can't be used on the old frames, and the forends won't all interchange as the new carbine barrels are of larger diameter. I don't have any new handgun barrels, so I'm not sure if they have the same problem. But, T/C has made different diameters and octagonals in the past that required different forends, so while a PITA, it's not a new thing for them. I'm not running right out to get a G2 frame, but I might consider buying one if the right deal came along and bit me.
Okay after getting the 22 Rem I got a good buy on a brand new 30 Herriett Barrel with sights and dies for the Contender so I scooped it. I recieve it knock the pin out of the 22 Rem barrel and install the 30H barrel fit easy and nice, closed smooth, but can not get it to open with out pulling the pin and fiddling with it till it comes apart.
Any of you old hands with the TC's tell what I got or what I am doing wrong?
Thanks Ken.
Quote:
Originally Posted by grandbow
I ain't so sure I want to hold a load like that. I don't think my elbow would take it!Kinda leaves my .480 with 22 gr. of H110 and a 400 grain bullet out in the cold!
Kodiak,
I figured you'd have gotten an answer before now. As much as I love my Contender, nothing serious has ever gone wrong with it in the 23 years I've had it, so I have never done more than disassemble it for cleaning. Which is a nice way of saying I don't have a clue to your problem. My guesses would not be useful, I'd have to have a working and nonworking example side by side to measure and compare. I love my .30 Herrett barrel and it works perfectly, so I'm not much help. :)
First I would ask next door at CB in the Single Shot Guns section. If no luck there, then I would call the factory 603 330-5659 and talk to a smith (not a CS rep, explain nicely that you need to speak with a smith), and if that didn't work then I'd go to Mike Bellam's(sp?) site. Thinking about it, the lack of real problems with any of my T/C products in the last 40 years probably tends to skew my attitude towards them a bit in the positive direction, you think? When I worked on guns for my living, any problems with T/C's got sent or brought down to the factory for service and were dealt with quickly and usually without charge. (When you get it up and running, I can give you a list of various moulds not to bother trying for your .30 Herrett, and a good list of bullets you might have some luck with.)
At present, all Encore,
218 Bee 15" (OTT)
.243AI 15" (VVCG)
.250 AIRLN 16"(rimmed longneck on .307 brass) (OTT)
6.5-257Rob. AIR 17" (7x57R brass) (OTT)
.300JNKR 18" (OTT) being built
.22-243AI in the planning stage
.250AIRLN
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6.5-257AIR
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Dave
Hey guys,
New to the site, just ordered a Gary Reeder Encore with 45-70 and 378GNR barrels. Does anyone have experence with Reeder products or these cartridges.
Welcome to Gunloads airtoad.
I think you will likely find more than a few .45-70 shooters here. I don't know about the .378GNR, what case is it based on?
Hello everyone,
I am also a newbie to these forums.I owa and shoot an Encore and contender pistols.
Encore in:
7mm-08 15"
45-70 15" W/4 magna ports
Contender in:
.223
I do have a question.Does anyone have a good hand load for 45-70 15"?I really could use a couple good loads for 350gr hornady round nose I have winchester brass.Also maybe a couple using 300gr Barnes origonal Fn and SS.Any help would be awsome.Trying to get the best accuracy from my hunting loads as possible.Short of a Bellum Rethroat.That is next.I think I will mainly be using the 350gr.Using 45-70 mostly for Bear and Elk sized game.Acossionally deer.
Thank you very much for any and all help in advance.It will be nice to meet and chat with you all.
Welcome to you, too, T/Chunter.
Have you tried cast in any of them?
I have not yet tried cast.
Hello all
I shoot the following
Encore in
357 max 19"
7.62x39 16 1/2"
contender
45/410 14"
256 win 10"
357max 10'
I have shot cast in the encore max and like it a lot. 180gr gc over 19gr of H110
I'm currently working on a 150gr cast boolit for the 7.62x39 and a 60gr cast for the 256, but I think I will have to wait for warmer weather.
It's only 4 degf here today with the wind blowing 30mph. Range reports will be awhile
Welcome to Gunloads part_timer. How old is your Contender frame? Does it have the adjustable trigger or is it a newer G2?
What is the twist in the 7.62x39 barrel? Just curious. You might be able to get away with a longer cast 170 or 180FN in an Encore, and it might shoot them better if the twist allowed it to stabilize them. My .30-30 Contender Carbine barrel likes 150-170gr (I think the twist is 1/10), and I tried two 180FNs that it did almost as well with, but the recoil was much more noticable with them to be comfortable at a long bench session. The little extra weight of the Encore frame/barrel would help a lot I think. The load I settled on used a Group Buy 45 2.1 150 FNGC and 3031. It "pieplates" at 100yds offhand easily and will keep 5shots at or under 1.5 inches rested. I am waiting for a .30/.223 that I ordered last spring. I hope it comes soon.
I have a T/C Custom Shop 16" Contender Carbine barrel in .35rem, the rim makes the Max a little easier to reload under stress, but otherwise they have about the same performance with cast. Mine likes 180gr RanchDog TLFNGC. 4895, 3031, RE7 good results so far. With 4895 it benches just under an inch consistantly. My 10" .357mag also does well with it and heavy charges of BDOT.
hello
me too i shot a tc 10 bull barrel in 7 tcu i shoot only cast bullet
a 7-145 sil rcbs and a lyman 139grs the 2 work fine
regards
ANDRE
T/C Contenders are deadly accurate & aload of fun.
I do 223,410/45,7-30 Waters,7-TCU,30Herrett
Welcome Marshall.
Wow, this thread is sure bringing the new members out of the woodwork.
I just finished loading up 250 rounds with various cast bullets and powders for my .35Rem Carbine. Most of them were with it's favorite 180gr Ranch Dog FNTLGC bullets, but I am also trying some 214RNGC's and the 158 SWCGC's that my revolvers like so much just to see what they will do. I'm not expecting much with bullets that light, but I have often been surprised when the "wrong twist" gives a very accurate load. If by some chance it likes them, it will make a load versatile enough for small to deer sized game, but I'm not holding my breath, just exploring possibilities.
Come spring I will have my hands full testing .35Rem and .30-30 Carbine loads, and .30 Herrett and .357mag pistol loads. Then there are more jacketed and cast tests for my .308 bolt and my K31. And then I have a .30-30 bolt I picked up that needs ten different cast bullets tested to see what it likes. I should probably just bring a tent and camp out at the range. And I have to practice with the M1A and the Garand.....
Hello,
35 is agood round. my herret likes 25gr. IMR 4198 & 150gr. sierra 's
My 7-30 likes 34gr. IMR 4064 &130 single pistol bullets by sierra. have had
sub MOA groups with 3031 &120's. 7 TCU I'm going to be shooting production IHMSA & Using H 322 with 139 horn & 175gr. Rem. bullets If I get in and like it I may
go with cast bullets I may need a little help .
Not sure if I did this right but I wanted to go back to the question about a good 45-70 load in a T/C. I found an old Lyman mould #457191 that casts a 310 gr RNFP and have been shooting it over 17.5 gr of Trail Boss Powder. Out of a 24 inch barrel I chronographed it at 1330 fps and its a real "pussycat load." Its far more accurate than I am even off the bench but it shoots pretty straight clear out to 200 yards. I use W/W brass, W/W primers.
Just started with the TC game lately, (14" .44mag, 10" & 14" 7mm TCU (just aquired), and 10" .22). Shot cast in the 44 last summer, and will be shooting cast in the TCU this summer... all at steel barnyard animals (Silhouette)
Welcome to Gunloads Peter.
Let us know what cast bullets your 7mm's like best.
Barrels up here for the Contenders are totally retarded so I am in the prcess of importing one out of the USA for about 1/2 the cost even with all the duties and taxes.
Will probably import a couple of more if this goes smooth at all.
Ken.:happy59: