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I have now loaded my 30-30 with unique,blue dot,red dot and 2400. I want more loads using pistol powder. I would like some using 700x,800x or PB. Bullet weights would be 100-180 gr cast lead OR jacketed. If you have some please share them. I have the Trail Boss data already. Thank you so much.Jim
Don't use pistol powders with jacketed bullets in rifle cases. The danger of pressure spikes is too great, even with reduced loads. That do-it-yourself piercing look with parts of a rifle action is not a fashion statement. :shock: They're fine for cast, if used prudently. Win231, Bullseye, and Green Dot are other possibles you can try with cast. Don't overlook RE7, 3031, & 4895 for both cast and jacketed loads in the .30-30, either.
Thanks I emphasized the OR in the post. Thanks for looking out for me/us.
By the way Alliant lists a 35 rem load that uses 13gr bluedot with a 170gr sierra FMJ.
Alliant may list it, but Sierra does not, even under their Single Shot Pistol data. Fastest powder they list for that bullet is H4227.
So who do I listen to? The guys that make the bullets, or the guys that make the powder?
Me, I would listen to the boys at Sierra. I figure that collectively they must have at least several centuries more experience than I do. When someone with a whole lot more experience than I have makes it clear that it is not a good idea to do something, I don't have to try it myself to figure out why. Life is short enough as it is. I was taught more than 35 years ago that the only time to use pistol powders with jacketed bullets is in pistol cases. I'm really not a big fan of pistol powders for cast rifle loads, either, but most of my load development is for hunting loads, not target, and you just can't get decent velocities with fast powders at safe pressure levels.
I sent the question to Sierra. I will post their response here when I get it
thanks,Jim
Well here it is. I think I will take your advice, and listen to the experts.
"Me, I would listen to the boys at Sierra." They even gave me another load using unique and 125/130 gr jacketed bullets.Hmmm?
Jim, about all the reduced loads you will find will always be with lead bullets. Thay are a lot easier to push down the bore than a jacketed bullet. Since you have been using that load of Blue Dot with the 150 grain jacketed bullet with out any problems, you should have no problem using it with our 125 grain bullet either. There is a load for Unique with a jacketed 30-30 bullet in 125/130 grain also with about 8 to 8.5 grains. The Unique powder is a little better choice for a reduced load than Blue Dot, since it is easier to ignite. Velocity on that Unique load should be around 1500 fps.
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> <table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0' border='0' ><tr><td valign='top' style='font: inherit;'>I have been loading my 30-30 with 13gr of bluedot under 150gr Speer FN bullets. It really shoots good. I want to try your 125 gr HP,But I have been told that it wouldn't be safe. I was told that using jacketed bullets with pistol powders is not safe. Would it be safe? What would the vel. be? The 150gr load is from the alliant website. It is for a cast bullet moving around 1525fps. Thanks Jim </td></tr></table><br>