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    Anyone know what make and model this is? Got it at a garage sale. All it says on it is Made in Italy, pn Black Power Only on the barrell, and a serial number of N 3859 PR on the butt of the grip.

    Any information would be greatly appreciated!!!!
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    Welcome to the forum FTPD Moose.
    My best guess is that it's probably a Uberti as it looks similar to one I had some years ago, but my rememberer is worn out and they don't make parts for it anymore.
    Give it a few days, and if no one over here can identify it, try next door at CB and post in the Black Powder section.
    If I can see it, I can hit it. Now, where did I put my glasses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by versifier View Post
    Welcome to the forum FTPD Moose.
    My best guess is that it's probably a Uberti as it looks similar to one I had some years ago, but my rememberer is worn out and they don't make parts for it anymore.
    Give it a few days, and if no one over here can identify it, try next door at CB and post in the Black Powder section.

    Thanks Versifier for the response, I'll see what happens.

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    May be that I'm getting picky, but I don't understand your question.
    Do you realize that it is a copy of an older firearm?
    Do you need to know who manufactured the copy or what is it a copy of?
    Pepe Ray

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe Ray View Post
    May be that I'm getting picky, but I don't understand your question.
    Do you realize that it is a copy of an older firearm?
    Do you need to know who manufactured the copy or what is it a copy of?
    Pepe Ray
    Looking for whatever info anyone can give me on it. Like I said, got it at a garage sale and don't know anything about it.

    TY

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    Smile

    That sure does resemble an 1858 Remington, which should be a .44 caliber. There are some other models that "may" be similar, but that's my best SWAG without looking it over "up close and personal."
    Regards,

    WE

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    Is that a brass frame? It would somewhat reduce the possibilities. Ubertis usually have the "U" in a barrel (seen from the front, with front sight and rifling) somewhere.

    N or PR might be the year of production; I'll try to find something on European boards.

    Could you measure the cylinder diameter, length and the chambers? The first italian replicas were undersized for their calibers (Uberti at least), supposedly because they had forgotten to account for shrinkages during the "lost wax/ investment casting" process.

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    Default what is it why ita a????

    Its a Remington repo.I have the same one.probably imported by EMF of Florida.
    If you shoot it it will shoot high. zero on originals[had one]is 75 yrds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k-g View Post
    N or PR might be the year of production; I'll try to find something on European boards.
    Well nope, these apply for italian production:

    XV=1959, XVI=1960, XVII 1961, XVIII 1962, XIX 1963, XX 1964, XXI 1965,
    XXII=1966, XXIII 1967, XXIV 1968, XXV 1969, XXVI 1970, XXVII or XX7 1971,
    XX8=1972, XX9 1973, XXX 1974,
    AB=1976, AC 1977, AD 1978, AE 1979, AF 1980, AH 1981, AI 1982, AL 1983,
    AM=1984, AN 1985, AP 1986, AS 1987, AT 1988, AU 1989, AZ 1990
    BA=1991, BB 1992, BC 1993, BD 1994, BF 1995, BH 1996, BI 1997, BL 1998,
    BN=2000, BP 2001, BS 2002, BT 2003, BU 2004, BZ 2005
    CA=2006
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