I love the 45acp I have fist used in 1962 who let me try his.Love at first sight .I use a Charles Daly 1911 and a commander,S&W 1917 45acp and a Llama.I reload for target and like titegroup and Win231 4.0 does well in all of them.I also shot a CZ52 7.62x25 with AA#9 power like a Super 38 auto.I enjoy both.